July 21, 2001 CVGP Meeting Announcement.

CVGP MEETING NOTICE-NEWSLETTER #16 


Dear Fellow Prospectors, 

The 16th meeting of the "Central Virginia Gold Prospectors" (CVGP) will take 
place at the pavilion at "Small Country Campgrounds" in Louisa, VA on 
Saturday, 7/21/01 at 10:00 AM. 

DIRECTIONS: Interstate 64 to exit 143 (Rt.208 - North)....go 2.5 miles & turn 
Left at small sign on to 640 and go 150 yards and turn right at small sign on 
to 649. Go 2 miles (bearing left on 649) into Small Country Campground.   
Campground entrance will be on the right.  As you drive up the dirt road, 
pavilion is on right. 


**(We ask those that have been receiving this notice/newsletter for a while 
to be patient with items that are repeated. We need to do this for the 
benefit of new CVGP members that are continuing to sign up with the club. As 
a result of the vote at the last meeting, the wording of some of these 
regular items has been appropriately revised. Thanks for your understanding). 


First, the minutes of the last meeting 
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MINUTES OF THE 15th MEETING 

"Central Virginia Gold Prospectors" 

Date/Time: 6/16/01, 10:25 AM-11:30 AM 

Place: Small Country Campground, Louisa, VA 

Attending: Rod Ingalls, GPAA VA Claims Committee State Director 27 Members & 
guests.  (1 new member attended).   

- Joe Coyle, CVGP President,  opened the meeting with a prayer. 

- John Hakala announced that since the Claims Committee Chairman, Henry 
Waldrop, is having problems with a back injury, a new Claims Committe 
Chairman is needed.  Also, for the Claims Committee to get into "Full Gear", 
6-8 additional committee members are needed. Please talk to John if you are 
interested in becoming a member of the Claims Committee or Committee 
Chairman. 

- Major portion of this meeting was devoted to the question of whether or not 
the Central Virginia Gold Prospectors should be a chapter of the GPAA.  The 
floor was open for comments by the attending CVGP members and officers.  A 
motion was passed to have a vote on the matter.  A ballot vote was taken and 
the decision was unanimous (27 to 0) for the Central Virginia Gold 
Prospectors to be an independent, local club and NOT be a chapter of the 
GPAA.  (This part of the meeting was detailed in an "Important Notice" E-Mail 
that was sent out to members on 6/20/01.   For those without E-Mail who are 
interested in the details of the discussions and vote, several copies of the 
E-Mailed notice will be made available at the July 21st meeting). 

- Joe Coyle reminded everyone that volunteers are still needed for the planed 
club "Miners Day" to be held in September. 

- Attendance list was passed around. 

- Raffles and club sales were conducted after the meeting. 

- The meeting adjourned at approx. 11:45 AM 

Submitted by: Ron Pope 

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BUY/SELL/TRADE BULLETIN BOARD 

6/27/00 - Russ Neitzelt, a prospector in Ohio who had to cancel his visit to 
CVGP in Sept.-Oct has the following FOR SALE: Fisher M-Scope Two Box 
Detector. 80's Model. Good Shape. Needs batteries which can be purchased at 
Radio Shack. Has instructions to go with unit. Will take $250.00 and you pay 
for shipping. Russ Neitzelt, E-Mail: neitzelt@eohio.net, Phone: 704-968-4734 

8/13/00 - Member, Harold Riley has a 3 inch combination High Banker/Dredge 
FOR SALE. NEVER BEEN USED ! Asking $1,100.00. For more details, call Harold 
at 304-456-4490 or talk to him at a meeting as he attends regularly. 

11/6/00 - Member, Roland Harris is looking for the following: 1) Good boots 
(not waders) with sturdy sole to use when shoveling and working in water with 
a high-banker. 2) Anyone that has a Minelab 2000 series detector to give 
Roland a demo (preferably at Contrary Creek) and for possible purchase. 
Roland can be contacted by phone at 703-354-8764 (home 6-11 PM), 
1-800-311-1078 (leave message-24 hrs.) or by E-Mail at shaveclose1@juno.com 

1/24/01 - Member, Roland Harris has the following NEW Briggs & Stratton 
engines FOR SALE:  1) 5 HP B&S Engine, 6-1 gear reduction ratio, new in 
original carton w/Tiny Tac (meter for usage), 135252-1049, Model # 135252, 
Type: 1049E1, Code: 980608YA,  $330.00 including shipping in USA.  2) 10 HP B& 
S Engine, 6-1 gear reduction ratio, new in original carton w/Tiny Tac (meter 
for usage), 226452-0049, Model # 226452, Type: 004901, Code: 961106YD, 
$670.00 including shipping in USA. 
Roland can be contacted by phone at 703-354-8764 (home 6-11 PM), 
1-800-311-1078 (leave message-24 hrs.) or by E-Mail at shaveclose1@juno.com 

2/26/01 - Member Roland Harris has a Gold Genie spiral wheel, a 4" Dredge 
with air and a 6" Dredge with air that is willing to loan to any 
"RESPONSIBLE" person or help anyone needing help in learning to operate these 
types of equipment. Roland can be contacted by phone at 703-354-8764 (home 
6-11 PM), 1-800-311-1078 (leave message-24 hrs.) or by E-Mail at 
shaveclose1@juno.com 

3/27/01 - Member, Paul Ensogna, Sr. is looking for an easy to carry around 
Sluice, 3 feet or smaller.  Paul can be contacted by EMail at 
"ensognas@shentel.net". 

* (If Your Message Is Not Needed On This Bulletin Board Anymore, or if you 
have contacted someone that no longer is interested in buying, selling or 
trading a listed item PLEASE LET ME KNOW  so we can remove from the list !) 

Ground rules for this BULLETIN BOARD: 

1) Contact Ron Pope by E-Mail (RPASSOC@aol.com) to have your item put on the 
Bulletin Board. THIS WILL BE THE ONLY WAY FOR NOW TO GET YOUR NOTICE ON THE 
BULLETIN BOARD !!!! 
2) When submitting, please give us your name, E-Mail address or phone # and a 
BRIEF description of the item(s) you want to buy, sell, trade or swap for. 
You will have the option on whether you want to have a price in your message. 
3) We will review your submission to decide whether or not it's appropriate 
to be included in the Bulletin Board. 
4) If your message is received by us too late for the next meeting notice, it 
will be posted in the notice for the following meeting. 
5) Please notify us as soon as possible if your notice is no longer needed to 
be on the Bulletin Board, so we can then remove it and always keep the 
Bulletin Board up to date (P-L-E-A-S-E  !!!!) 
6) Any transactions as a result of Bulletin Board notices are ABSOLUTELY NOT 
to take place during CVGP meetings !!!!! Only discussions that will be 
permitted during a CVGP meeting regarding the Bulletin Board will be 
discussions or suggestions concerning format or ground rules of the Bulletin 
Board. 
7) CVGP will not be responsible for sellers description or representation of 
items. Buyers will be solely responsible for understanding what they are 
purchasing from a seller. In other words, as with any purchase,.."Buyer 
Beware". 
8) CVGP will not in anyway be a part of or responsible for any transactions 
other than providing a means for its members to communicate to each other 
their desire to sell, buy, trade or swap items amongst themselves. If there 
is any dissatisfaction over a transaction, it will be the sole responsibility 
of the parties involved to settle their differences. 
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CVGP FINANCIAL REPORT 

The Central Virginia Gold Prospectors currently does not charge dues or fees 
of any kind to be a member of the club. To cover any expenses for club 
activities such as outings, dinners, property leasing costs, postage, etc. we 
hold raffles, sell 50/50 chances, accept donations, etc. Therefore, a regular 
part of this monthly newsletter will be an up to date financial report 
indicating both income & expenses and current balance of the CVGP account (a 
CVGP checking account was opened on 7/28/00 with F&M Bank). As voted and 
approved at the 4/21/01 meeting, a $100.00 (maximum) Petty Cash Account was 
started.  $100.00 was retained from the 5/19/01 meeting proceeds to start the 
Petty Cash Account.  Any future Petty Cash expenses will be replenished from 
meeting proceeds as required to maintain a $100 Petty Cash balance ): 

STARTING Check Account BALANCE (as of  6/5/01)............$1367.69 
INCOME 
- 6/16/01- Member 
Donations.......................................................$    25.00 
- 6/16/01- Club 
Sales.....................................................................$    
 35.25 
- 6/16/01- Club Raffles....*(50/25/25 winner donated back).........$  223.00 
EXPENSE 
- Joe Coyle -reimbursement - Postage (from Petty Cash)...........-$     28.00 
PETTY CASH BALANCE................................................. 
.........$   100.00 
*($28.00 replenished from 6/16/01 meeting proceeds) 
CVGP CHECK ACCOUNT BALANCE (as of 6/21/01)...........$  1622.94 
TOTAL CVGP BALANCE (as of 6/21/01)................................$  1722.94 
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THE 6/16/01 MEETING ! 
- As most of you probably know by now, the biggest news for this meeting was 
the vote to make the Central Virginia Gold Prospectors an independent, local 
club and NOT to be a chapter of the national GPAA.   Membership in the GPAA 
will be an individuals choice and not be a criteria for being a member of the 
CVGP.  Between the attending members and officers along with supportive 
E-Mails we received from members that could not attend the meeting, it 
appears that the consensus is that this decision will ultimately benefit each 
and every member of the CVGP.  Possible future membership dues, club by-laws, 
membership cards, etc. will be discussed and decided on over the next few 
meetings so we urge as many as possible to attend the next few meetings so 
that as many members as possible can have a chance to provide their input on 
these upcoming matters. 
- Also, in case anyone is wondering, has the GPAA contacted the officers on 
this decision....YES,  on the same day the notice was E-Mailed !   Has the 
GPAA attempted to get us to reconsider....YES, however we advised them that 
since this was a decision by the club membership that attended the June 16th 
meeting, we could only suggest that the GPAA send someone from California to 
one of our meetings and address the concerns of the CVGP membership and that 
the current CVGP officers will not in any way attempt to overturn the 
decision of the club members ! 
- Well, enough on that subject for now....time for all of us to move on and 
do what each of us can to make the CVGP the kind of prospecting club we all 
want it to be ! 

THANKS ! 
- Many thanks to the members that continue to bring food, goodies, snacks 
and refreshments to the meetings and to those who have made cash donations or 
as at the last meeting donated back their 25/25/50 raffle winnings to the 
club. 

Northern VA Prospecting Area 
Member, Jack Rankin, forwarded me a copy of the following posting he saw on 
the newsgroup alt.mining.recreational that might be of interest to those 
living or visiting in the Northern VA area just northwest of Mclean near the 
Potomac River: 
"Probably the best locality I have found is at Swinks Mill on Scotts Run. 
Park at the Dransville Park and walk up the stream to a point about fifty 
yards below the bridge where the stream turns to the right and North. Notice 
an outcropping of white quartzite to the West. Best spot here is the slip off 
slope just around the bend of the stream in the gravels. You must dig down to 
bed rock, although there is gold in the overburden. I have dredged here in 
the past and on each occasion I have found at least six small "nuggets" of 
gold that I could pick up with my fingers out of the dredge sluice. Stay off 
of the land to the East. Best dredging times are between 10AM and 3PM. This 
holds true for the other areas indicated. 
Good luck, George Hamilton, Geologist, www.explorationgeologist.com" 

CONTACTING CVGP CLUB OFFICERS, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, Etc. 
- Should you ever need to contact any of the CVGP club officers or committee 
members, please jot down the following numbers for future reference: 
CLUB OFFICERS: 
Joe Coyle, President - PH: 540-672-9113; E-Mail: jhcoyle@ns.gemlink.com 
John Hakala, Vice.Pres. - PH: 804-457-2407; E-Mail: johniblu@juno.com 
Ron Pope, Sec./Treas. - PH: 804-263-5981; E-Mail: rpassoc@aol.com 
CLAIMS COMMITTEE MEMBERS: 
Chairman - (POSITION VACANT ! - NEED VOLUNTEER TO FILL !!!!) 
John Hakala - PH: 804-457-4178;  E-Mail: hcwald@erols.com 

FUTURE CVGP CLUB MEETING DATES 
John Hakala advised me that Small Country Campground will continue to allow 
us to use the pavilion for our club meetings every 3rd Saturday of the month 
through and including October.  So For those who like to plan ahead, the 
meeting dates for the rest of the year will be:   7/21/01, 8/18/01, 9/15/01 
and 10/20/01. 

CVGP "MINERS DAY" - As mentioned at last few meetings, the CVGP will hold a 
"Miners Day" at Small Country Campground on Sept. 15th, 2001 (actual date 
subject to change).  Main purpose will be to introduce the general public to 
"Recreational Prospecting".  Some thoughts brought up would be to have 
members dressed up as miners, have operating prospecting equipment on display 
down at the campground creek, have panning and mucking contests, have Mule 
rides for the kiddies, have concentrates available for the public to pan, 
have a plastic ducky race, set up a food/refreshment stand, charge $5 
admission for non-club members (free admission for children).  Local 
newspaper announcements will be made in advance. Volunteers for a committee 
to set this all up and firm up details are being requested.  Please contact 
Joe Coyle if you can help out ! 

CVGP VOLUNTEER REQUESTS 
1. As previously requested, the Claims Committee could use the talents of 
someone that has surveying experience to assist in difficulties they are 
experiencing reading old plats, identifying old boundary markers, etc.   
(Contact either John Hakala or Henry Waldrop if you can offer assistance). 
2. Volunteers are needed to form a committee for organizing the CVGP "Miners 
Day" (contact Joe Coyle if you can help out). 
3. A few Volunteers will be needed to help out at the CVGP display at the 
28th Orange County Fair (probably around the last weekend in July).  Last 
year's CVGP display generated almost continuous visits to the CVGP display 
along with new CVGP members !  Please talk to Joe Coyle for more details and 
if you can help out. 

"Earmarking" MEMBER DONATIONS 
You've probably noticed that in just about every CVGP Financial Report, there 
are "donated" amounts showing up.  Some winners of 50/50 raffles at past 
meetings turned over their winnings back to the club.  Others donate by 
participating in the various raffles or bringing covered dishes to the 
meetings or donating their time and talents or simply donating information 
regarding prospecting.  This is the type of member participation that will 
ultimately insure the success of our club !   
 If you do not need to specify what you want your cash donation to be used 
for it will be deposited into the clubs general fund.  However, if you want 
to make a cash donation for a specific purpose, please see me and make sure 
to let me know what you want your donation to be used for.  We will keep a 
record of your donation so that it is only used for the purpose you 
designated. 

Member Participation 
We are attempting to keep the CVGP meetings as informal and as relaxed as 
possible since we don't want to get into arguing parliamentary procedures 
instead of discussing what we all come for......prospecting!  So, if you have 
a suggestion, an idea, prospecting hint or tip, a question or anything 
relating to the club and/or prospecting, please do not hesitate to bring it 
up at a meeting.  Except for the opening prayer, committee reports, club 
announcements, etc., consider the entire meeting an "open discussion" period 
for you to participate to your hearts content. 

INTERESTING PROSPECTING WEB SITES 
(If you know of some real interesting and informative gold prospecting Web 
sites and would like to share the Web address with the rest of the members, 
please let me know and we'll put it in the next newsletter.) 

- I recently came across a Web site called "Prospecting Near DC". Has 
information on prospecting places in Virginia and Maryland, access to 
prospecting equipment plans, topo maps, prospecting dealers, Mineral 
Resources Depts. and loads of links to other interesting sites many of which 
relate to the Virginia and Maryland areas.  The site address is:   
"http://www.infiltec.com/gold". 

MEETING HANDOUTS 
Joe Coyle, John Sorg, Rod Ingalls and several others often bring in copies of 
various prospecting articles, prospecting tips, prospecting "how to" sheets, 
duplicate prospecting magazines, etc. to share with the members.   If you 
have come across something you would like to share with the members, please 
make some copies and bring with you to a meeting.  If you do not have access 
to a copy machine, if you give me the article, I'll be glad to run off some 
copies to distribute to the others. 

GMM Card, Spotsman Pledge Cards 
One of our members, Dennis McClevey, showed me his GMM (General Mineral 
Mining) card which shows that he took a mining safety course.  Seems to me 
that having such a card might just be one more sign of credibility you can 
use when attempting to get property owners permission to prospect.  Dennis 
says the Virginia Div. of Mineral Resources should be able to give you 
details on who will be giving the next course and where and when.  Related to 
this, Dennis can show you an "Operation Respect Pledge" card which is very 
similar to the "Sportsman Pledge" cards John Hakala has.  All of these things 
should help prevent a land owner from looking at you as being a "crazy" but 
instead as someone who will treat his property with respect ! 

VIRGINIA DIVISION OF MINERAL RESOURCES - PUBLICATIONS & UPDATE 
In past newsletters, we've listed a number of gold prospecting related 
publications that are available from this very valuable resource.  Instead of 
continuing with our listing, it would probably be better for you to obtain 
their latest "Catalog of Publications and Maps" which is 33 pages long !  It 
includes a listing of all of their publications, bulletins, reports, maps, 
books, etc.  Prices (which are VERY reasonable) are also listed.  You can 
even purchase rock and mineral sets.  You can also bring in your rock/mineral 
finds to have them identified. 
CONTACT INFORMATION: (Hours 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM / Monday-Friday) 
Virginia Div. of Mineral Resources, Box 3667, Charlottesville, VA 22903 
Information Phone #: 804-951-6354; Publication Ordering Phone #: 
804-293-5121; FAX #: 804-951-6365; 
E-Mail: JMARR@geology.state.VA.US (John Marr, Information Officer) 
WEB Site: http://www.geolgy.state.va.us 

PROSPECTING IN VIRGINIA 
Please keep in mind that with a few exceptions, most gold bearing areas in 
Virginia are located on Private Property ! We do not want to create a bad 
image of recreational prospectors in Virginia not to mention the fact of 
having to face a judge for Trespassing charges ! ALWAYS get permission from 
the property owner BEFORE starting your prospecting activities on private 
property ! Also, if you have a place that you have permission to prospect on, 
PLEASE show your appreciation to the property owner by not "trashing" his 
place. Remember, if you bring it in (bottles, soda cans, paper bags, etc.) 
take it out. Leave the property in the same if not better condition than when 
you first came there. Then, for sure, you'll be welcome to come back. 

FUTURE OF CVGP 
The registration list of the CVGP continues to grow from meeting to meeting. 
Currently at over 170  registrants ! Attendance at the last few monthly 
meetings runs anywhere from 30+ to 50+.   Important matters concerning the 
future of CVGP often come up at most every meeting. So for your benefit and 
the benefit of all members, please attend as many meetings as possible and 
feel free to join in any of the discussions with your thoughts, ideas and 
viewpoints. 

GUEST SPEAKERS AT A FUTURE MEETING 
We were fortunate to have geologist, Dave Wooley at the April meeting.    
Maybe with a little "arm twisting" we can convince him to come back and again 
share some more of his valuable knowledge with us ?  Efforts are also 
continuing to line up other Guest Speakers at future meetings.  If you know 
someone that would be able to offer some valuable information regarding 
prospecting in Virginia, by all means please do not hesitate to invite them 
to attend one of our meetings. 

LOOKING FOR A PROSPECTING "BUDDY" ? 
We now have 170 + prospectors registered on our club listing that live 
throughout the state of Virginia, West Virginia and even Ohio. Many 
prospectors find that this hobby/recreation is more enjoyable when they have 
some company with them.  So, if you would like to get in contact with someone 
near you, please contact either: 
Joe Coyle (540-672-9113; JHCOYLE@ns.gemlink.com), 
John Hakala (804-457-2407; Johniblu@juno.com) or 
Ron Pope (804-263-5981; RPASSOC@aol.com.). 
Due to Privacy Laws, we cannot give you any names but we can pass on your 
name and phone number to other prospectors in your area and if they're 
interested, they'll contact you. 

CVGP CLAIMS COMMITTEE 
The "CVGP CLAIMS COMMITTE" was formed at the July, 2000 meeting. This is the 
KEY for our club to develop more prospecting places for club members to go to 
in Virginia !!!!! If you are aware of a property that may have good potential 
as a club claim, PLEASE bring it to the attention of either of the Claims 
Committee.  It is their job to determine if there is legal public access to 
the property or if private property, to determine the property owners for the 
purpose of either obtaining permission and/or any special arrangements such 
as leasing for club members. (By the way, leasing is one of the reasons to 
build up the club "kitty").  (NOTE:  The Claims Committee currently needs a 
Chairman and 6-8 committee members !!!!). 

OTHER PROSPECTING INFO ON THE WEB & TV 
- Occasionally, you may find documentary shows regarding the history of Gold 
Prospecting as well as Treasure Hunting on TV channels such as "The Learning 
Channel (TLC)", "The History Channel" or "The Discovery Channel" so it might 
be good to keep an eye out on these channels when browsing through your TV 
guide. 
- The national GPAA has a WEB site "www.goldprospectors.org" which every 
prospector should check periodically and in particular the Forums. The GPAA 
site also has links to other prospecting sites where you can find loads of 
info even including plans on how to make your own prospecting equipment ! The 
GPAA also has several prospecting shows such as "Prospecting America", "Gold 
Fever Show" and "Buzzardite Classics" on the Outdoor Channel on TV (check 
with your cable TV provider or for dish owners, the Outdoor Channel is 
located on Galaxy 10/24 and X4/402). 

E-MAIL CLUB NOTICES/NEWSLETTERS 
At present, it is only practical to get these somewhat detailed monthly 
notices/newsletters to members that have E-Mail (about 1/2 of the entire 
membership). Eventually, all those without E-Mail will be getting "snail" 
mailed postal card notices thanks to the hard work of Joe Coyle and the 
generosity of member Jack Rankin who has a printing business. However, the 
"snail" mailed notices will be only to alert members of the next meeting 
dates. If you have not been receiving these E-Mailed notice/newsletters, it's 
either because you don't have E-Mail or we do not have your E-Mail address ! 
If you know any members that are not getting any of these E-Mails, please 
have them E-Mail me (RPASSOC@aol.com) their E-Mail address and we'll be sure 
to add them to the E-Mail listing. 

SUGGESTIONS 
Please remember, your suggestions, thoughts, ideas, information for the club 
meetings, monthly newsletters, etc. are ALWAYS welcome. We do not ever want 
to forget that the main goals of the CVGP are to not only promote the 
hobby/recreation of Gold Prospecting but to also make it more enjoyable and 
rewarding for those already involved. Even if you think that whatever you 
have to contribute is unimportant, believe me, if it has anything to do with 
prospecting, you can count on the others being interested in what you have to 
say !!!! 

CVGP IS A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION 
The CVGP currently does not charge membership dues or fees of any kind. To 
cover the cost of any club expenses such as phone calls, postage, outing 
related expenses, property leasing, etc. we raise money by holding raffles, 
50/50 chances, selling or auctioning donated prospecting items, receiving 
donations (of either time or money), etc. Your support of any of these fund 
raising activities (or contribution of your talents or resources) would not 
only be appreciated by all of the members but ultimately will benefit all 
members in reaching our common goals for this club. 

ALL ARE WELCOME ! 
Please feel free to bring along any prospecting buddies of yours, family 
members especially your children or friends that want to find out more about 
prospecting to the meetings.  CVGP meetings are open to ALL those interested 
in prospecting ! 


HAPPY PROSPECTING and hope to see you all on July 21st ! 

Regards, 
Ron Pope 
Secretary/Treasurer - CVGP 
(804-263-5981) 
RPASSOC@aol.com